Sarah Palin, CBN, Separation of Church and State - Nuff Said, Wink Wink

[buckeye]

http://jeffolsson.blogspot.com/2008/10/sarah-palin-cbn-separation-of-church.html


Tuesday, October 21, 2008

Sarah Palin, CBN, Separation of Church and State - Nuff Said, Wink Wink
Posted by Jeffrey Olsson

Sarah Palin makes no bones about it, she believes that Gay marriage is
wrong and she wants Roe vs Wade overturned, potentially stopping abortion
in USA. She will make these statements in an interview with the Christian
Broadcasting Network to be aired later today.

She will also say that she is troubled by those who mock of her religious
beliefs. Beliefs that she is sure have helped her rise to success. She
summarized this point by saying “Nobody is going to convince me that my
foundation of faith is not good for me and for my family no matter the
mocking, no matter what anybody says about it, I’m going to keep plugging
away at this and I’m going to keep seeking God’s guidance and His wisdom
and His favor and His grace, for me, for my family, for this campaign, for
our nation.” Palin said, “I can reach out to Him asking for that strength,
asking for the blessings that He so freely gives and I don’t know how
anybody would want to do this if they didn’t have real strong faith in God
that He’s got it all under control.”

David Brody described his talk with Sarah Palin as a real "700 club"
interview.

I fear that this woman, if elected will completely blur the lines between
religious belief and the office of the vice president. I also find it so
odd that right in the midst of the world wide economic crisis that the
United States has caused by it's policies of deregulation that she thinks
it's the right time to tell the world that marriage is something that needs
to be regulated.

Can I get an "AMEN" ?

Find out why I left the priesthood or check out my opinions about religion
and other paranormal BS on my web page at http://members.shaw.ca/jdolsson/

***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:

The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm

American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm

The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html

[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
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. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
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USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote

"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"

That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.

It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.

*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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[Curly Surmudgeon]

Post by buckeye
http://jeffolsson.blogspot.com/2008/10/sarah-palin-cbn-separation-of-church.html
Tuesday, October 21, 2008
Sarah Palin, CBN, Separation of Church and State - Nuff Said, Wink Wink
Posted by Jeffrey Olsson
Sarah Palin makes no bones about it, she believes that Gay marriage is
wrong and she wants Roe vs Wade overturned, potentially stopping abortion
in USA. She will make these statements in an interview with the Christian
Broadcasting Network to be aired later today.
She will also say that she is troubled by those who mock of her religious
beliefs. Beliefs that she is sure have helped her rise to success. She
summarized this point by saying “Nobody is going to convince me that my
foundation of faith is not good for me and for my family no matter the
mocking, no matter what anybody says about it, I’m going to keep plugging
away at this and I’m going to keep seeking God’s guidance and His wisdom
and His favor and His grace, for me, for my family, for this campaign, for
our nation.” Palin said, “I can reach out to Him asking for that strength,
asking for the blessings that He so freely gives and I don’t know how
anybody would want to do this if they didn’t have real strong faith in God
that He’s got it all under control.”

Sarah Palin isn't unique in their dislike for being mocked but that's the
downside of being a crazymotherfucker.

When you do stupid shit you get mocked. Don't like it? Then don't do
stupid shit. Not a difficult concept for sane people.

Post by buckeye
David Brody described his talk with Sarah Palin as a real "700 club"
interview.
I fear that this woman, if elected will completely blur the lines
between religious belief and the office of the vice president. I also
find it so odd that right in the midst of the world wide economic crisis
that the United States has caused by it's policies of deregulation that
she thinks it's the right time to tell the world that marriage is
something that needs to be regulated.
Can I get an "AMEN" ?

No, you may not. 'Gay' marriage isn't an issue about homosexuals but
about equal rights as guaranteed by the 14th Amendment.

Post by buckeye
Find out why I left the priesthood or check out my opinions about
religion and other paranormal BS on my web page at
http://members.shaw.ca/jdolsson/
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American Theocrats - Past and Present
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The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation
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*************************************************************** . . .
You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why
"a page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v.
Eisner, 256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921)
(Holmes, J.). Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445
(7th Cir. 1992) . . .
**************************************************************** USAF
"You pilot always into an unknown future; facts are your only clue. Get
the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at almost
every media turn.
*****************************************************************
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[buckeye]

:|
:|> http://jeffolsson.blogspot.com/2008/10/sarah-palin-cbn-separation-of-church.html
:|>
:|>
:|> Tuesday, October 21, 2008
:|>
:|> Sarah Palin, CBN, Separation of Church and State - Nuff Said, Wink Wink
:|> Posted by Jeffrey Olsson
:|>
:|> Sarah Palin makes no bones about it, she believes that Gay marriage is
:|> wrong and she wants Roe vs Wade overturned, potentially stopping abortion
:|> in USA. She will make these statements in an interview with the Christian
:|> Broadcasting Network to be aired later today.
:|>
:|> She will also say that she is troubled by those who mock of her religious
:|> beliefs. Beliefs that she is sure have helped her rise to success. She
:|> summarized this point by saying “Nobody is going to convince me that my
:|> foundation of faith is not good for me and for my family no matter the
:|> mocking, no matter what anybody says about it, I’m going to keep plugging
:|> away at this and I’m going to keep seeking God’s guidance and His wisdom
:|> and His favor and His grace, for me, for my family, for this campaign, for
:|> our nation.” Palin said, “I can reach out to Him asking for that strength,
:|> asking for the blessings that He so freely gives and I don’t know how
:|> anybody would want to do this if they didn’t have real strong faith in God
:|> that He’s got it all under control.”
:|
:|Sarah Palin isn't unique in their dislike for being mocked but that's the
:|downside of being a crazymotherfucker.
:|
:|When you do stupid shit you get mocked. Don't like it? Then don't do
:|stupid shit. Not a difficult concept for sane people.
:|
:|> David Brody described his talk with Sarah Palin as a real "700 club"
:|> interview.
:|>
:|> I fear that this woman, if elected will completely blur the lines
:|> between religious belief and the office of the vice president. I also
:|> find it so odd that right in the midst of the world wide economic crisis
:|> that the United States has caused by it's policies of deregulation that
:|> she thinks it's the right time to tell the world that marriage is
:|> something that needs to be regulated.
:|>
:|> Can I get an "AMEN" ?
:|
:|No, you may not. 'Gay' marriage isn't an issue about homosexuals but
:|about equal rights as guaranteed by the 14th Amendment.
:|
:|> Find out why I left the priesthood or check out my opinions about
:|> religion and other paranormal BS on my web page at
:|> http://members.shaw.ca/jdolsson/

If you want to reply directly to the author of this article you can't do it
here. You would have to go to the URL up there and maybe there is a
comment section at that site .

You can address audience in general here but not the original author of
the article she he didn't post that excerpt here.

When you say "No, you may not." to something the original author wrote
you are addressing him and not the general audience here.


***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:

The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm

American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm

The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html

[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]

HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/

***************************************************************
. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote

"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"

That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.

It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.

*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************

[buckeye]

:|> http://jeffolsson.blogspot.com/2008/10/sarah-palin-cbn-separation-of-...
:|>
:|> Tuesday, October 21, 2008
:|>
:|> Sarah Palin, CBN, Separation of Church and State - Nuff Said, Wink Wink
:|> Posted by Jeffrey Olsson
:|>
:|> Sarah Palin makes no bones about it, she believes that Gay marriage is
:|> wrong and she wants Roe vs Wade overturned, potentially stopping abortion
:|> in USA. She will make these statements in an interview with the Christian
:|> Broadcasting Network to be aired later today.
:|>
:|> She will also say that she is troubled by those who mock of her religious
:|> beliefs. Beliefs that she is sure have helped her rise to success. She
:|> summarized this point by saying “Nobody is going to convince me that my
:|> foundation of faith is not good for me and for my family no matter the
:|> mocking, no matter what anybody says about it, I’m going to keep plugging
:|> away at this and I’m going to keep seeking God’s guidance and His wisdom
:|> and His favor and His grace, for me, for my family, for this campaign, for
:|> our nation.” Palin said, “I can reach out to Him asking for that strength,
:|> asking for the blessings that He so freely gives and I don’t know how
:|> anybody would want to do this if they didn’t have real strong faith in God
:|> that He’s got it all under control.”
:|>
:|> David Brody described his talk with Sarah Palin as a real "700 club"
:|> interview.
:|>
:|> I fear that this woman, if elected will completely blur the lines between
:|> religious belief and the office of the vice president. I also find it so
:|> odd that right in the midst of the world wide economic crisis that the
:|> United States has caused by it's policies of deregulation that she thinks
:|> it's the right time to tell the world that marriage is something that needs
:|> to be regulated.
:|>
:|> Can I get an "AMEN" ?
:|>
:|> Find out why I left the priesthood or check out my opinions about religion
:|> and other paranormal BS on my web page athttp://members.shaw.ca/jdolsson/
:|>
:|> ***************************************************************
:|>
:|> The Rise of the Theocratic States of Americahttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
:|>
:|> American Theocrats - Past and Presenthttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
:|>
:|> The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and Statehttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
:|>
:|> [and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
:|> Church and State in general, listed below]
:|>
:|> HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&Statehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
:|>
:|> ***************************************************************
:|> . . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
:|> respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning.  Words
:|> take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
:|> page of history is worth a volume of logic."  New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
:|> 256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
:|> Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
:|> . . .
:|> ****************************************************************
:|>
:|> "You pilot always into an unknown future;
:|> facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
:|>
:|> That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
:|> many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
:|>
:|> It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
:|> plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
:|> almost every media turn.
:|>
:|> *****************************************************************
:|>     SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
:|>
:|> http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
:|> ****************************************************************
:|
:|***Sarah Palin is a real Conservative.Which part of Conservatism that
:|you don't understand?

LOL Which part don't you understand?

Compare her views with the following:


http://www.zeppscommentaries.com/Other_Voices/goldwater.htm

Barry Goldwater

On the Relgious Right:

"Religious factions will go on imposing their will on others unless the
decent people connected to them recognize that religion has no place in
public policy. They must learn to make their views known without trying to
make their views the only alternatives."

"I don't think there was any Reagan revolution. This country is based, its
economy is based, on free enterprise. The government's based on a
constitutional democracy. And all Reagan did was to continue what Harry
Truman did and George Washington started."

"Every good Christian should line up and kick Jerry Falwell's ass."

"I don't have any respect for the Religious Right."

"A woman has a right to an abortion."

"The religious factions will go on imposing their will on others,"

When Barry Goldwater died May 29 at the age of 89, the cause of
church-state separation and individual freedom lost a great champion.

"I am a conservative Republican," he wrote in a 1994 Washington Post essay,
"but I believe in democracy and the separation of church and state. The
conservative movement is founded on the simple tenet that people have the
right to live life as they please as long as they don't hurt anyone else in
the process."

A few years later he told The Advocate, "I don't have any respect for the
Religious Right. There is no place in this country for practicing religion
in politics. That goes for Falwell, Robertson and all the rest of these
political preachers. They are a detriment to the country."

In 1994 he told The Los Angeles Times, "A lot of so-called conservatives
don't know what the word means. They think I've turned liberal because I
believe a woman has a right to an abortion. That's a decision that's up to
the pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious
Right. It's not a conservative issue at all."

Goldwater, an Episcopalian, had theological differences with greedy TV
preachers. "I look at these religious television shows," he said, "and they
are raising big money on God. One million, three million, five million -
they brag about it. I don't believe in that. It's not a very religious
thing to do."

"If they succeed in establishing religion as a basic Republican Party
tenet," he told U.S. News & World Report in 1994, "they could do us in."

"Well, I've spent quite a number of years carrying the flag of the 'Old
Conservatism.' And I can say with conviction that the religious issues of
these groups have little or nothing to do with conservative or liberal
politics. The uncompromising position of these groups is a divisive element
that could tear apart the very spirit of our representative system, if they
gain sufficient strength."

Insisted Goldwater, "Being a conservative in America traditionally has
meant that one holds a deep, abiding respect for the Constitution. We
conservatives believe sincerely in the integrity of the Constitution. We
treasure the freedoms that document protects....

"By maintaining the separation of church and state," he explained, "the
United States has avoided the intolerance which has so divided the rest of
the world with religious wars .... Can any of us refute the wisdom of
Madison and the other framers? Can anyone look at the carnage in Iran, the
bloodshed in Northem Ireland, or the bombs bursting in Lebanon and yet
question the dangers of injecting religious issues into the affairs of
state:"

Goldwater concluded with a waming to the American people.

"The religious factions will go on imposing their will on others," he said,
"unless the decent people connected to them recognize that religion has no
place in public policy. They must learn to make their views known without
trying to make their views the only alternatives...

"We have succeeded for 205 years in keeping the affairs of state separate
from the uncompromising idealism of religious groups and we mustn't stop
now," he insisted. "To retreat from that separation would violate the
principles of conservatism and the values upon which the framers built this
democratic republic."

"Being a conservative in America traditionally has meant that one holds a
deep, abiding respect for the Constitution. We conservatives believe
sincerely in the integrity of the Constitution. We treasure the freedom
that document protects...."

"By maintaining the separation of church and state, the United States has
avoided the intolerance which has so divided the rest of the world with
religious wars. Throughout our two hundred plus years, public policy debate
has focused on political and economic issues, on which there can be
compromise...."

"The great decisions of government cannot be dictated by the concerns of
religious factions. This was true in the days of Madison, and it is just as
true today. We have succeeded for 205 years in keeping the affairs of state
separate from the uncompromising idealism of religious groups and we
mustn't stop now. To retreat from that separation would violate the
principles of conservatism and the values upon which the framers built this
democratic republic."


-- Barry Goldwater, U.S. Senate Address, September 16, 1981,
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:

The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm

American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm

The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html

[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]

HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/

***************************************************************
. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote

"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"

That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.

It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.

*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************